So no ones really added anything in this community in awhile, well thats about to change because, well, here i am, and i'm going to be getting a lot of things off my chest here and now about my thoughts on the sonic fandom. Alright, first i'll just come out with me saying "yes, i am a sonic fan, i may not be a total hardcore gamer, but i still love this blue hedgehog because he inspired me to get more involved in arts and creativity." But i've somewhat left the fandom, and am just now slowly getting back into it.
Now i don't know why, but it seems that there's been alot of people bashing the sonic fandom and its community. The reasons are as follow:
1. The fans are going batshit over their couples and are having couple wars right and left.
2. The fans are completely ignorant of each other's opinions and such and tend to have huge dramas over why this character sucks and why their favorites are better than anyone else's preferences of their favorites etc.
3.Sonic fans always have shitty recolor fancharacters, and have zero originality.
4. The new sonic games suck @$$!!$%^
5.Sonic, the character himself, is an overrated mary-sue who is a complete furfag.
Now here are my thoughts on those reasons...First i'll direct my attentions to the stereotyped "fans" of sonic. The main picture with everyone's thought outside the sonic community is that we're all a bunch of over-obsessive fangirls who have their female fancharacters be a love interest of one of the main sonic casts, or the types to have couple wars over who suits better for who etc. What others fail to realize is that EVERYONES DIFFERENT. Basically what i'm getting at is, true there are these over-dominant controlling fans who are absolutely unbearable to deal with, but on the other hand, there are stable/sane fans like me out there in the sonic community who are very open-minded about everything......and i mean EVERYTHING. We're all entitled to our own opinions, thats the way i see it, and if you don't agree with mine thats perfectly fine! I'm not about to have this huge dramatic argument as to whose right and whose wrong, whose better and whose worse, who wins and who fails, because there honestly isn't a "right" or "wrong" in this whole community known as a fandom.So i guess this knocks reasons 1 and 2.
The sonic fancharacters....ah yes, i do have one myself, and i can assure you she is no recolor of amy/blaze/sally/etc. She's a fennec fox, and her story is completely original, and if i have time i'll possibly post it sooner or later. But i won't lie, she started out as a classic amy recolor, yes she started out as a hedgehog. As time went on i decided to have alittle fun and went all out with her, then i nerf'd her a bit so she wouldn't be deemed as a mary-sue and voila....she's pretty original in my opinion, even her outfit and hairstyle isn't a reference from the original sonic cast. But my thoughts on recolors are this, yes they ARE pain to look and see EVERYWHERE in the sonic community. Basically, you seen one recolor, ya seen them all....But this could be a stepping stone for some fans who are trying to get their creative juices out. However, i do feel appalled to see fans create a sonic or amy recolor and say "I R SO 0R1G1N4L!!!111!!!11!" Its annoying and everyone categorizes them as 12 year olds who lack originality in their work. Mind you, if your going to use a recolor, i hope you plan to evolve it more to something that you came up with and be original in your design and character-building. Another thing is that.....NOT ALL SONIC FANS WHO HAVE SONIC FANCHARACTERS ARE COMPLETE RECOLORS. Some are so designed completely beautiful and they use diverse animals, mind you, the sonic universe does not revolve around only hedgehogs....I only have one fancharacter, and i plan on just keeping one.
Sonic fans are somewhat notorious for feeling that the "Classical Sonic Era of Sonic Games" have died. To be honest...they have. No, not all the sonic games are going to like the ones from Dreamcast. I personally think the sonic games are "ok" not "OMGTHISISTHEBESTESTGAMEEVERBECAUSEITSSODEEPANDHASCOOLACTIONINIT" or not "Th1s 1$ C0mPl3t3 BULl$h1T!!!".
I honestly think sonic games, the recent ones, are perfectly fine. I do wish they would have some deep story-line to it, and no not as cheesy as sonic next gen. 2006. But sort of an exciting thrilling plot. I'm going to be working on a sonic fanfic. that'll have something along the lines, ofcourse its still in the works, but hey its worth a shot, i bid you it won't be anything like MY FANCHARA / *insert sonic character name*.
Some people say that sonic fans are waaaay too picky with the sonic games, and that if they don't have it THEIR way then its utter shit to them. Honestly, people will agree and disagree, everyone has their own thoughts on it, like i stated earlier about the couple wars and favorite sonic characters.
Now here's the last reason, or reasons i saw that people hate sonic, and its sonic himself as a character. People believe he's a mary-sue and that he's overall and over-rated character. Now i have nothing against their opinions, they don't like him because he's too over-rated and thats fine. But i hate how people come to actually diss sonic and actually display "Hatred" upon him. He's fictional.......he's not even real......why exactly HATE him when he doesn't even exist? This is my shortest rant on the whole sonic sux reasoning.
Summary of everything: Basically every fandom has these crazy fanatics, no fandom is safe.....NONE.....I mean it. Whatever fandom you can think of, it'll have its kinks of overly-insane fangirls/boys who take things waaay to seriously. Try playing halo 3 online and people will cuss up a storm, look around naruto fanclubs and you'll see a lot of people hating on other characters and see fangirls make fancharacters making it with other canons. Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario, Kingdom Hearts, Deathnote, Practically any fandom you can think of will have these, and there's no escape from it, all you can really do is, ignore it, move on, and accept what the fans are like, but still keep your interests in the fandom itself. In my own opinion, i think you shouldn't let anyone else interfere with what you like, this means other fans as well. Just because there are fans who are complete fanatics and go completely crazy doesn't mean there aren't normal sane ones. And fancharacters in other fandoms will have the same problems as well, as being deemed a "recolor" and "lacks originality in their works."
I've generally seen the hatred come from DA where i've seen a lot of people dissing sonic and his fans and the reasons i've listed above. Also i've seen A LOT of well-talented and awesome sonic artists leave DA due to art thieves stealing their art, people trolling the sonic community and making their fancharacters to be what they're not to be, or just have no reason and just get up and leave. Idk but for a while i felt that the sonic community was somewhat dying, but maybe it was just my shock to see alot of good artist go up and leave while i was dormant from the sonic fandom.
I'm just going to kind of rant here because I still need to use my LiveJournal for expressing my feelings whenever I feel them, because I don't really feel like they belong on my personal Tumblr.
There's a popular fanfic of mine I write for sometimes. It's called A Dragonfly's Heart. Of course, it's Sonic fanfiction and I do tend to repeat things in my fics, but this fic of mine has been completely different than my other works. For one thing, it stars several characters than just Sonic or Shadow, but the main protagonist is Amy, a princess from the North Kingdom who at first is spoiled and whines and people think she's weak, but as she meets Sonic, a prince from the South kingdom, Rouge, a queen from the West Kingdom who wants to collect the Dragonfly's Heart for her sick husband, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, who wants to destroy the forest to make way for a new city, and is willing to wage an all out war against them just to gain respect from his fellow human beings, Amy becomes a much stronger woman and is willing to put all this war against all factions of the kingdoms to a stop.
People tell me the writing is good, and very descriptive. I also worked hard on making it in the story that no one in it is the real villain: Rouge is just extremely desperate and willing to do anything to help her husband, Sonic seems to have the curse of a rotten heart that causes him to view everything with contempt and apathy, and I also had Dr. Robotnik as a character some people can sympathize with, as while he did have a loving family and nearly everything he could ever want under his nose, but yet he goes through a dark past that he wishes he could show to everyone that he is worth respecting.
I know that basically I posted this on FF.net and I shouldn't have expected any better, but I have met a few dedicated writers on FF.net and some have even contacted me and gave me really great reviews of my stories. However...let's just say that while I worked hard on the fabrification of this story, I have a stupid fanbase.
They constantly tell me on how much they want Sonic and Amy together and I did pretty much establish that it was Sonamy, but it disappoints me on how most of them don't even care on what is going on with Rouge, when I made her into a strong, but yet suffering character, and I felt like only one person cared about what was going on with Robotnik. And they constantly send me pretty dumb reviews on the story when I actually want them to really tell me on what they like, and if anything, something they don't like or something to improve on. I even had someone say a particular scene was "creepy, but cute".
This scene, by the way, was Sonic telling Amy when he fully became a monster, she had to kill him and rip out his heart.
I know I shouldn't expect much else because this is FF.net, but...~sigh~.
x-posted to my journal
Am I the only person that thinks that the main reason people beet up on Sonic so much is because it's the "In" thing now?
why, for the love of god, is most of the sonic remix community centered around just techno or rock?
I know, I know, "you shouldn't complain, you can't even make a remix YOURSELF." No, I can't, but these people have the talent to create music and remix tributes to Sonic, they owe it to themselves to show how talented they are BEYOND techno and rock. This doesn't apply to people who play -actual instruments-, just the ones who use the exact same default fruitloops instrument set all the time, with no way to distinguish one remix from the other.http://www.youtube.com/user/teezord
this guy here, is, by far, one of the best Sonic remixers I've ever found on youtube, and he doesn't use techno or rock! the shock!! the horror!!! His remixes actually gave me such a buzz right here inside, they had me smiling, and I'm about the most apathetic bitch you'd ever find, so smiling for me is like a once-a-year opportunity. and his music made me smile many times.
so please, for the love of god, if you decide to remix a song for Sonic, please, for the love of god, don't do techno. try jazz, try classic rock, try soul, hell, there's an oil ocean rap-style song out there that is 200x better than the generic been-there-done-that techno. Seriously, I'm getting tired of techno, and I'm sure most other music-comm stalkers are, as well.
I just really hate Sonic techno after listening to like 100 techno remixes of music, sometimes even of the same Zone level theme. jesus. oh, and off-key techno at that, shit. thanks for bastardizing starlight zone, dipshits.
"'When I create a game I think about how kids will enjoy it. So, that may be why I may have a tendency of using characters based on animal. Also, when I’m walking around in the day and I see an interesting animal I think about what kind of game I could create with them. I’m constantly thinking of those things,” says Naka.
When asked if he’s seen any interesting animals lately, Naka laughed, and said, “That I can’t answer. The reason why I can’t is because the game we’re developing is based on that animal I thought was interesting.'
This is something I’m happy about.
If you haven’t been able to make a good games in years, then just stop.
I mean, Mario isn’t the most new and creative games on Earth, I’ll admit, they just keep remaking it over and over again. But Mario’s a great icon and for some reason his games never get old. It’s American history! They’re never really AWFUL, they’re just the same. But Sonic games are just awful. Always have been after they left the Dreamcast behind in his dustcloud.
[Probably a link to Sonic 2006]
You know this is when you’ve run yourself dry.
[Stupid retarded videogame article made by people with their heads up their asses]
This is when you know you’re doing something pretty good and refreshing. Now drink that Fresca down and say “ahhhhh~”."
Dear Dumbass McFuckup,
First of all, what the fuck did that quote had to do with Yuji Naka saying he was done with making videogames? He said he liked making games for children, what the hell is wrong with that? If you automatically think a game made for children is "INSTA-FAIL OH NOEZ" then you're an idiot. There are plenty of games out there that were made for children and children and adults alike adore it. Kirby and Pokemon, which are made from Nintendo, comes to mind.
Also, I know this is a Sonic community, but I have a rant about your Mario statement too. First of all, Mario may have remade two of their games recently, like New Super Mario Bros. and that Wii one that I forgot its name was, but unless you count the GBA ports, that's it. Mario has done A LOT of new things recently. Ever played Super Mario Galaxy? That's a great example. The only difference between Sega and Nintendo, other than Nintendo in the end becoming more successful, is that Sega listens too much to what the retarded Sonic fans have to say. I'm sure once Sega gets the message that what they're doing isn't appealing to the other rational Sonic fans, they'll start getting off thei shit-stained ass and try to make the Sonic series no longer into a joke. The problem is that once they do that, the retarded Sonic fans will get pissed off, but you know what I say? Fuck 'em. Most of them aren't even a functional member of society. I think they live in the sewers, trying to live their life into pissing me off as much as possible.
Also dumbass, Mario is mostly a Japanese thing. I forgot some of my Mario knowledge so correct me if I'm wrong, but I do think Mario did originate in America but hey, guess what? It's more popular in Japan, like tentacled rape monsters and sex dolls (except Mario is cool and that shit is weird.) All America fucking cares about is Walt Disney anyways.
But according to your logic, since Sonic hasn't been doing good lately, okay, let's just disappoint thousands of fans and end it. If we followed through with this, I'm sure that there are Mario fans who think the games aren't as good as Mario 64, so okay, let's listen to them and end Mario. While we're at it, let's end Spyro. And Mortal Kombat. And just piss off everybody.
Honestly, I think it's more logical that if we see something as popular, let's continue it. Sonic is still popular after almost 20 years. While I do agree that the games have been a pile of steaming horse shit lately (except I think they've done something right with Sonic Unleashed, which were the daytime levels), that doesn't mean Sega should go ahead and give up. Sure, I may be a hopeless romantic of a fan, but guess what? Sonic Colors and Sonic 4 do look promising. And you know what I think is a good sign about Sonic 4? They delayed it. Sure, while some Sonic fans can't wait for the game to come out, I think this is GREAT, because when a game gets delayed, it usually means THEY HAD ISSUES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING A SHIT AND FIXING THEM. I'll just have to wait and see how the game does, but I know even if Sega released a perfectly great Sonic game, people like you will bitch about it because it doesn't give them those nostalgic reasons or what the fuck ever. Hey, guess what? You're 30. No one gives a fuck. Get a job.
Also, to end this on a good note, I will shove that Fresca up your ass. I fucking HATE Fresca, you retard.
Yeah, this was angry and everything, but that's what this community is for. What a great audience, I hope you try cooked baby cows.
Short little thing I've been meaning to get off my chest somewhere and finally found the right place for it.
WTF, FANDOM?! Why do 95% of you seem to have nearly identical unoriginality trends as the OFFICIAL character designers?? WHY?!
I mean, I understand if you can't draw shit to save your life, but is it REALLY necessary to make, I dunno, 10 literal recolors? Or even long-lost siblings of canon characters that are basically recolors of the official characters? Really?
Ok, granted, back in the day, the fucking majority of my inumerable amount of my own Sonic OCs were recolors, but you know what I did when I got older? I redesigned them all. Redesigned them in such a way that they were no longer the recolors they used to be, but something of their own.
Sure, I kept the fact that my first two OCs were basically Tails' cousins, but I tweaked their backstory to make it at least KINDA plausible.
And sure, I also made my own long-lost-twin-brother of Shadow who literally is an inversed-color version of him, but I worked my ass off to make his backstory and reason for existance WORK in both my fanon and even a bit in canon. All the other long-lost-siblings I see tend to just pop out of fucking no where with no reasonable explanation.
The blatant epidemic of recolors is sadly most apparent on DA. I joined about three groups dedicated to fan characters for the soles purpose of sharing my own OC's pics whenever I get around to drawing them more someday, but I recently had to stop receiving new upload messages from them because almost everything I got from them was a fucking RECOLOR. Often POORLY DRAWN recolors. And the few that were a freakin species that hasn't been done yet, they were poorly designed. Like this one chick had a blue mouse but she couldn't draw her own character worth shit and didn't bother to clothe the obviously female character. And then she tried drawing porn with her. Yeeeaaaah, if you're going to draw porn, learn anatomy. Please.
Even most of the stuff I get from the one group I dained worthy enough to still get messages from isn't worth calling "original".
Come on, guys, the purpose for Sonic OCs is that they're just that, OCs. Otherwise called "Original Characters". There is and never will be anything original about taking a picture of Sonic, coloring over him and maybe adding some small poorly drawn attachment, slapping a new name on it and calling it your own.
Please do not be as retarded as whoever thought Mephiles was a great idea. Thank you.
why do the sonic fanbase think all modern sonic games are shit?
yeah, I love the retro games too, but not all of them were perfect, either.. Sonic 3D Blast, anyone? and SAB2 was damn fine, I like it better than SA/DX.
but these people seem to ignore the handheld games like the plague. Aside from sonic genesis, which was a shitfest, the GBA trilogy and rush are like the most addictive handheld games ever- I've clocked more hours on SA3 than Pokemon Emerald, which says something.
Seriously, am I like, the only one that still feels the Sonic magic when playing the handheld games? I ADORE Blaze, she's my favorite female sonic character by far, and second favorite overall next to Sonic himself.
but I get so freaking angry when it feels like the fanbase DELIBERATELY ignores the handheld games to rip sega apart every change they can get. "BAAAWWW SAWNIK SUX0RZ NOW SEGA U FAAAAILLL"... Sega hasn't quite let us down, but the Unpleasable Fanbase just wants a new sacrificial goat to pick apart every time a game comes out, and has their heads too far up their asses to appreciate the handhelds.
Yeah, the 3d games suck, and shadow's game doesn't even exist in my eyes [/discontinuity] but for the love of god, don't smash the GBA trilogy/rush series. There's a glimmer of hope if you'll only just except them.
oh fandom... how I loathe thee...
Hello to all. Let me start off by saying that I’m sure that there are some Princess Sally fans out there who are nice, normal people. But the majority of them are like this ungodly combination of extremely annoying and scary.
I don’t like Sally (but for more logical reasons then “She‘s a half-dressed slut!" or whatever). But I don’t go around bashing Sally or her fans because that's just not in my nature. But honestly, I think a lot of her fans only serve to make my dislike of the character worse.
For starters, some of them make me wonder if they understand that she isn’t real and will never be real. I also think I saw this one person trying to argue that anyone who doesn't like Sally is a misogynist. LOL. If I’m such a misogynist, then how come I like characters like Bunnie, Dulcy, Hershey, Lupe, and Amy Rose? Not to mention the ton of female characters from other mediums I like and have spoken up for when people trash them for sexist/or silly reasons? And why do Sally fans scream bloody murder when people bash Sally, but then they'll turn around and frequently bash other characters they hate?
Guys, I can‘t take anything you say seriously if you‘re being flaming hypocrites, and I honestly don't think you’re helping Sally‘s case any when you behave like this.